As Daniel Nyberg and I argue in the book, despite the growing realization among governments and business as to the existential nature of the climate crisis, there is a clear disconnect between the rhetoric of climate action and the scale of emissions reductions required to avoid dangerous climate change.
In the interview I cite Professor Kevin Anderson, from the Tyndall Centre, who argues that to avoid the politically-agreed definition of ‘dangerous climate change’ (average global warming of 2o Celsius), developed economies would need to reduce carbon emissions at the rate of around 8-10 per cent per annum. As we note, this is a level of emissions reduction that is beyond current political imagining. Moreover, these levels of emissions reduction are largely incompatible with economic growth. Here the challenge of decoupling capitalist expansion from its material impacts appears completely alien to conventional economic and business thinking.
As the climate crisis worsens, I anticipate we’ll be having many more of these challenging conversations!